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  1. Tamra Says:

    Wow.

    That was my first reaction.

    I understand what dude is saying, but the approach is all wrong. There are are a number of better ways to convey his message. Many, many of them. On the other hand though, given a lot of what we see/experience that still happens today, what does it really take to get the point across?

    Interesting.


  2. Terell Says:

    Damn! I feel him. That type of rage and grief is warranted. But the question in my mind is how much you can put all of white folks ills on individuals. How do you walk that line?
    Having a white baby mama I ask myself these sorts of questions all the time. Cause I can find myself tripping about white folks and directing that energy toward her.

    -T


  3. Bygbaby Says:

    Tamra – “There are are a number of better ways to convey his message. Many, many of them.” Exactly!

    Terrell – “Cause I can find myself tripping about white folks and directing that energy toward her.” Must be ultra hard but that is your baby’s mama & you made that decision!!!

    Although my wife if mixed Black dad/white mom, she I think is sometimes sensitive to my feelings & I know that I can be harsh at times, but this is me living out loud with my opinions & experiences a s Negro male in a society that is not feeling me.

    Bottom line is the approach can totally fuck up a message. (I need to follow my own advice LOL).

    Bygbaby


  4. ayankha Says:

    I don’t think his approach was too harsh… if anything, it was right on target. Now, would that be my approach, No. But that just is not how I’ve come to express my views. I cannot to tell this brotha how he conveyed his msg was wrong or too this or too that. Hell, he didn’t touch her or assault her… so it was quite fair. She should not have asked that Q to begin with… As the saying goes…”Don’t start no shit, won’t be no shit.” See, I think she started out with that ole passive-aggressive, “I’m-the-victim” approach in order to demonize this man for having his beliefs on patriotism… but she soon discovered that she came into contact with a someone who knew that okey doke she tried to pull. So, was he justified…hell yeah… she asked a question and couldn’t handle his response/opinion, however extreme it was.


  5. ayankha Says:

    PS- I don’t feel sorry for her at all. She should have not gone swimming in the deep end without a life jacket. I just can’t waste my feelings of sorrow on her.


  6. Cluizel Says:

    Damn!…w.o.w.

    At first I would have sworn that was happening on 125th St because people arealways on the street with microphones talking like that…but I see its in Philly.

    The approach was rough…but what the hell is she stopping and talking to him for anyway…poo poo…if she said some slick shit and then he tore in to her (which I am assuming) I have no sympathy…I wouldn’t have expressed myself like that but I was feeling everything he said as well…


  7. Jovan Says:

    I think we shared the same initial thoughts on this one.

    The brother spoke so much truth but it was all lost on her ( and damn near anyone else in the vicinity ) because of the venom with which he spoke.

    I felt bad for the girl because she really didn’t mean to offend dude…however…she did need a little light shed on her…

    I dunno man….I’m torn. I laughed when I saw it but felt a little twinge of guilt for finding it funny ?

    Has massa brainwashed me so much that I feel guilty when an angry brother speaks the truth or am I just human for feeling sympathy for someone who wasn’t prepared to have “real talk” rained down upon them like so much fire and brimstone ?


  8. Bygbaby Says:

    I am really digging the dialogue on this post!!!!

    Ayankha 0 I hear you & you know what, there is no telling what was said to him before the jump off officially began. “‘As the saying goes…”Don’t start no shit, won’t be no shit.'” well that pretty much sums it up right there.

    Cluizel, I thought it was in NYC also & perhaps Harlem. I have listened in on a few 5%er street lessons before & they do go the fuck off. Maybe they did a road show.

    Jovan – “I dunno man….I’m torn. I laughed when I saw it but felt a little twinge of guilt for finding it funny?” Me too!!!

    You last point, well I am right there with you. Maybe I am experiencing a relapse into the white oriented matrix that plagued my life at one point.

    Keep it coming peeps!

    Bygbaby


  9. Anonymous Says:

    I agree with ayankha. Everything the man said is true, the way he went about it may not have been politically correct but you cannot save everyone’s feelings. Besides at first she was trying to be coy but when he exploded on her she became the victim-talk about the tables being turned!

    Also it amazes me that white Americans don’t have a hard time talking about the holocaust and what the Germans did to the Jews but when you mention slavery the attitude is why are you bringing that up, it is history. It is harder for white Americans to swallow slavery because it is the history of this country and what their white ancestors did and we all know looking in a mirror is hard. What the Germans did is more removed like “that is what they did” it is not our (white American) dirty work so they will bring up the holocaust more objectively. Both events were horrific but American whites feel more comfotable condemning Germans their their white American ancestors. That’s my two cents!


  10. Anonymous Says:

    I meant to say that American whites feel more comfortable condeming Germans for the holocaust than condeming their white American ancestors for slavery. The latter hits to close to home-to think what you have was built on the backs/deaths of others is hard to swallow.


  11. Bygbaby Says:

    Anon – The Jewish piece of this discussion reminds me of when Al Sharpton was on CNN after the Tiger Woods lynching comment jumped off. He said that if that woman, said if she mad a comment toward that was like, lets but him in a gas chamber, then there would be no debate on if she should get fired, the bitch would just be gone. The Jewish mafia would not have it.

    Sad but true, Jews are more cohesive as people then we are which helps in their position of power, influence & finance.

    Thx for dropping a line Anon & I felt you.

    I think in general white America just wants to have blinders on when it comes to the blood of our ancestors & the atrocities we suffered & the residual effects. I think that Damali Ayo pretty much proved that with her social/political work on “Pan Handling for Reparations” (http://www.damaliayo.com/pages/video.htm)

    Bygbaby


  12. Cluizel Says:

    LMAO…a road show? :-)


  13. SistaLocd Says:

    First let me say I love your blog, you keep it real. I always read but was to shy to leave a comment.

    Anyhow this video was very interesting, thanks for sharing it. Some light was shed on me as well. I have to admit I felt sorry for the girl because I bet she didn’t think that he was educated and didn’t really have anything to say. He showed her. I give him props for speaking his mind and being real, hey she started it! I bet she won’t ever ask another brother a question like that again!


  14. Bygbaby Says:

    Cluizel – Yes, LOL!!!

    Sistalocd – Thx for comeing from out of the shadows! Ayankah said it best, dont start no shitm won’t be no shit!!!

    Bygbaby


  15. Renea Says:

    Hmph…here’s the thing. Dude went at her neck and she started ‘crying’ like Hillary after the Iowa caucus. I see brothers like that in Harlem in their garb. Their anger is poetic and epic, but so counterproductive. ON THE OTHER HAND, I went to school with and taught ‘trustafarian’ white kids like that. They think they’ve discovered the solution to race relations and the road map to world peace. In their naivete, they can be condescending and annoying in ways they don’t appreciate or understand. A Bob Marley CD is not a strong foundation to approach black folks on the street. This young woman thought she was going to ‘teach’ these men a thing or two and she got blasted. She was wrong. Even though she seemed a little high, she DID think she was more enlightened than these men and that she was going to be some white light. That they could be saved by her. The truth is she is just as off as they are. She probably won’t understand why or how. Her question was racist and revealed her lack of knowledge of American history. She obviously thinks race relations started around the time when she was born. Questioning black people’s patriotism? That’s like that NJ legislator who, in objection to a state apology for slavery, actually said– in 2007– that African Americans should be thankful that slavery brought them to America. Now I recognize that being African American affords me more wealth and privilege than I would experience anywhere else in the world, but that is a CRUEL, HEARTLESS thing to say. Miss Anne there might have intended to start a dialogue about race based on her understanding of CURRENT events, but her question in the context of historical events is arrogant and condescending. I know one thing, she’s not going to speak out of turn anytime soon. She should have just kept it moving. Actually she was treated no different than anyone else who challenges those guys, she was just an easier target.


  16. Renea Says:

    And I also cannot believe how unsympathetic I am to the girl. But I know if as a black woman I said the same thing she did to some 5% with a microphone…ooowwwee… What they said to that white girl wouldn’t even register. I know this. I show respect even if I don’t agree with their conclusions, because I do respect the emotions it’s rooted in…like brother said, folks don’t recognize black humanity and that is a hurting thing. But he ain’t ‘going back’ to Africa no time soon…lol…so I put his presentation in perspective. Damn. I still can’t feel sorry for that girl.


  17. Bygbaby Says:

    Damn Renea! What more can I say!!! everyone is all over this one & we all have a common thread on the issues here. I would love to present to video to the Democratic Nominees to get their reactions & feelings about this.

    On the 5%ers. I know that I would not dare challenge them, a) I am not usually up for a fight on the streets b) how can you argue with a grown man who may have an aluminum foil belt on (yes, I have seen this) & c) everyone is entitled to speak their mind.

    Lastly, cone on peeps, lets show the white girls some love in the name of your one good white friend!!!

    Bygbaby


  18. Renea Says:

    Can you tell I’m still cross with Hills?…lol. The guys I’m talking about in Harlem wear the foil belts, matching headgear and polyester metallic tunics. They are not playing. heehee.
    Not for nothing, my good white friends have remained in good standing cause they know white folks place. Miss Anne there is never going to have any REAL black friends if she doesn’t shut her big mouth when grown black folks are talking. Smart white folks fall back on telling black folk what to think and feel. Unlike Bill and Hills…but I digress.


  19. Tamra Says:

    lol…

    “I think in general white America just wants to have blinders on when it comes to the blood of our ancestors & the atrocities we suffered & the residual effects.”

    I don’t know BB… Quick case in point–I had to “school” a woman on a forum I used to participate in about the whole Jena 6 situation. She was basically calling the dogs to dinner, trying to get people to rally behind her thoughts of the black teens being out of control and responsible for the whole mess.

    I pointed out to her that her *facts* about what happened were incorrect (she got her info straight from mainstream media–in snipppets at that). I also pointed out to her why the whole issue of the noose tauntings might really piss black people off. I didn’t yell at this woman or damn her to hell or anything–I just said, “Look, K, here’s what the deal is…”

    I was expecting to be either ignored or totally lambasted by her and the rest of the group, but she surprised the pure-t-hell out of me a) by apologizing—the noose history explanation drove it home, and b) by saying, “Ok…I get it…” and ultimately changing how she thought about the situation. SHE then started doing her own research and pointing out to others the injustices of the Jena 6 situation–couldn’t get her to shut up about it (which was also a tad bit worrisome because then you know others who aren’t quite “sold” may start getting antsy and vitriolic because they’ve “lost one,” so to speak). And I almost took a pass on the thread…

    So, I think people really do want to know more, and that they may actually welcome the opportunity to examine their thinking about history (even if they initially come across as condescending and arrogant—which this chick did), but I think a lot of them are really afraid of how we will respond if they inquire. It’s not so much about being concerned for people’s feelings as much as it’s about finding the right opportunity to catch people at a point where they’re most willing to listen. That, unfortunately, tends to be a matter of trial and error, I think.

    No, not everybody’s going to want to listen/learn/re-evaluate or realign their thinking, whether they get yelled at out of anger or not–but hey. That’s on them. Progress might be slow, but one is better than none.
    ——————————————
    One last example—I was driving somewhere out in the boonies of Chicagoland, and had a guy on the road in front of me in a pickup truck somehow start dangling a rigged monkey around in the back of his window (damn it took a lot of brain juice for him to set that up…). My initial thoughts were to run him off the road, hehe. BUT, instead, I just drove on, behind him, and did–nothing. I think THAT really got him because he was seriously looking like, “Ok, why isn’t this working.” He’d keep driving and jiggle the monkey every now and then, and then check his mirror to see if I was getting spazzed out about it. HA! Not.

    So again, I’m sure that wasn’t necessarily a teaching moment, but I love presenting people with the unexpected. I think the more we do that and actually try to educate people about the “whys” (sorry, but some folks need the explanation) as opposed to just the “whats,” people will be more willing to listen.

    Just my 5 cents. (Sorry, too long to be 2)


  20. Bygbaby Says:

    Renea – I am really getting sick of Billary & cannot wait until after “Super Tuesday” when hopefully some of the drama will end one way or the other.

    Tamra – look at you converting people to the right side of racial issues in America! A perfect example of effective communication, not saying homeboy in the video was not effective because he was effective (if his goal was to shake homegirl down to the depths of her soul (if she has one according to him LOL)).

    I think most white Americans do not have blinders on, I think they simply are just unaware of the racist, bloody & abusive past of their ancestors. That is why we need to know our own history as much as possible so that we can break shit down when the time comes like you did.

    Too bad Tiger got played out by one of his many good white friends. I am sure there were no teaching moments in that instance.

    Oh & that guy was an ignorant fool who really just needed to be ignored!!!

    Bygbaby


  21. Chi-chi Says:

    Whew! While I would feel sorry for anyone being yelled at with such harshness, I have to say that she should have known better.

    When people present conflictual topics to you, you already know that they’re ready to bring it.

    It was annoying to see how she tried to be really hurt–like you would be spared? Please!

    I don’t agree with his message but young white people really need to get a clue. Unfortunately, cultural sensitivity is not valued and so real life has to teach. And this chick got taught!

    Chi(:


  22. Tina Says:

    Wow. He didn’t lie. And the truth hurts. Bottom line. I was shocked that the girl started crying though. I was like “Grow a spine!”

    What gets me is that she didn’t just walk away. But then again, A LOT of white people have NO IDEA about the true history of the USA when it comes to race. They rarely get to empathize with the experience of Native Americans, or Africans, or Mexicans when it comes to US history. Put the children in the shoes of the people who were wronged – they come away with a COMPLETELY different outlook on why things are the way they are.

    A lot of the time, US history is presented as facts and dates and that’s it. There isn’t any real in depth study of the effects of the events that have happened in our past and how it affects our present day lives.

    As for his presentation, there was one time when I raised my eyebrow and was like “Dang, that was harsh”. I think had he taken a less hostile and loud approach that it would have been more productive. What he should have done (instead of get hostile) was to look at it as a chance to educate this girl on the reality of our history.

    I think on one hand she wanted to hear what he had to say, but when he gets into how her father and grandfather murdered people so that she could go to school, that’s what bothered her the most.

    I would love to know what was going on in her head quite honestly and what happened prior to the part that we saw.

    LOL! Can you tell I’m a history teacher!?!?!?


  23. Bygbaby Says:

    Chi-Chi – “When people present conflictual topics to you, you already know that they’re ready to bring it.” Very true, when you are in that zone, you are wishing someone would step to you & I think he got his wish! LOL

    Tina – Yes, I did hear you & thought hmmmm, teacher! Digging & probing for more facts LOL.

    From your standpoint, what will it take for “them” to get it? & I like how you & others mentions other groups of color specifically Native Americans. That made me think of sport team names & how insensitive they seem to me but the “minority”think that it’s ok (for the most part).

    I think this is one of the best discussions that have had here in a while. I just hope my next post i not wack, now that I am hot on my last 2 LOL!!!

    Thx for stopping by & sharing your thoughts.

    Bygbaby


  24. Naturally Sophia Says:

    Good post. I am unsympathetic to her and agree with the majority of things he said. He should have sticked to the topic and not attacked her ancestors personally. I guess I have the tendency to be harsh too but in a more quiet way.


  25. Smitty Says:

    Just stumbled onto you blog. Love it.

    Anyway…I don’t feel bad for her cause the truth hurts. He didn’t say anything false. She way tryna be cute & thought she was asking a “street vendor” a question then she got her ass handed to her. I don’t understand why white folks don’t see why blacks aren’t the most “patriotic” people.

    I liked how he said black folks are the most patriotic people. Real talk.


  26. Bygbaby Says:

    Naturally Sophia – I think the part about hr direct ancestors was a bit fucked up but hey!!!

    Smitty – Thx for stopping through & checking me out. I know that I’m not patriotic at all! Just do not fuck with me & mine, point blank!!!


  27. Shan Says:

    Tafari – this is a TRIP! Let me tell you, I have never seen anything like this and I don’t disagree too much with anything other than the approach. lol
    Where do you find this stuff!


  28. Bygbaby Says:

    Shan – LOL, I get lucky on the controversial ghetto finds!

    Bygbaby



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